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Old 04-28-2013, 01:16 PM   #1
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I have some recent nerve damage which makes upshifting a motorcycle with my toes just about impossible. I can't find a heel-toe shifter anywhere I look, and wondered if anybody either knows of one or could make one (for money) for my 2009 KLR?
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Old 04-28-2013, 03:39 PM   #2
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Hmm I'll be watching this thread. Heel toe shifter on the KLR is an interesting idea, sure would make things simpler when wearing full MX boots.
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Old 04-28-2013, 05:05 PM   #3
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Checkout this post. Post# 12.
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Old 04-28-2013, 05:08 PM   #4
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What is the "heel to toe" shifter ? Could you explain ? It will be hard for me too, but not impossible. Same thing ~ nerve damage.
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Old 04-28-2013, 05:19 PM   #5
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What is the "heel to toe" shifter ? Could you explain ? It will be hard for me too, but not impossible. Same thing ~ nerve damage.
Double sided (fore and aft of footpeg) shift lever.
Push Down with toe to shift down
Push Down with Heel to shift up.
Lots of big, cruiser/touring bikes have/had them.
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Old 04-28-2013, 05:20 PM   #6
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Checkout this post. Post # 18.
That's post#12
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Old 04-28-2013, 05:35 PM   #7
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Double sided (fore and aft of footpeg) shift lever.
Push Down with toe to shift down
Push Down with Heel to shift up.
Lots of big, cruiser/touring bikes have/had them.
Holy crap ~ that would REALLY "normalize" shifting for me. I hope something turns up ~ I'm going to hunt the internet, maybe something universal ?
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Old 04-28-2013, 05:54 PM   #8
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Found a place that has a bunch of different kinds --- I'm wondering, if its for a different stated bike could it possibly be fitted to our klr 's ??
Go to this link-- that shows one -- but drop lower on the page, on the right you will see a string of pic/links to others !! Haven't looked at them all yet
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Old 04-28-2013, 06:03 PM   #9
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Wonder if you could use it w/o the floorboard though -- possible ?
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Old 04-28-2013, 07:41 PM   #10
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Most often the splines from different bikes do not interchange, and the bend/length of the shifters are different for almost every bike. Therefore I wouldn't bother modifying one designed for another bike. Instead I would modify an existing KLR shifter. That way at least the splines and front half are already correct. You just need to make the back, like the poster in that link.
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Old 04-28-2013, 08:35 PM   #11
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found this on google images
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Old 04-29-2013, 01:21 PM   #12
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Thanks for the input so far. I've unfortunately become a heel-toe shifter detective over the past month or so since I have 4 other bikes that now need one, and no two are anywhere nearly alike in terms of the linkage and how (or if) they fit the frame. So the "universal" fit one from JC Whitney doesn't exist anymore to my knowledge.
The KLR's doesn't look to be too difficult to make, perhaps welding on the heel shifter part to the back of the existing shift lever or else getting creative with a CNC machine---but either one is way beyond my capabilities. It would make for a great shifter for riders with MX boots or big (or even little) feet.
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Old 04-29-2013, 02:11 PM   #13
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Maybe through the forum you can find someone local to lend a hand welding up a heel shifter. For someone who has metal fab skills it wouldn't be a hard thing to do, and could be done in 30 minutes.
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Old 04-29-2013, 06:08 PM   #14
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I know Urals use a heel\toe shifter. If it could be made to work on a KLR I don't know but it might be a lead.
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Been using this for over 3 years and hasn't let me down yet. Best thing is easy to make with no welding necessary. I used 3/8 inch allthread because I didn't have a source for metric but now that I do, would use probably 8 or 10mm next time. I drilled and threaded a 3/4 inch bolt for the allthread and then used a cutoff wheel to slot it to fit over the stock shifter. Then I drilled through shifter and bolt and put in a nut and bolt. Since it is held on by only one bolt it sometimes moves a little so I put 2 little bolts fore and aft to stop this.
You would think the allthread wouldn't stand the 90 degree bends but I did them slowly in a vise without even heating the rod. They've never cracked or bent. Got a couple of rubbers from previous bike broken foot levers.
It appears that the back part is too high but it's a result of a lot of trial and error to get where it it the most comfortable for me. I can actually put toe on front and heel on rear to shift up or down without being on the footpeg.
If I ever redo it I would get a wider piece instead of the 3/4 inch bolt so I could use 2 nut and bolts to anchor it. But at present works like a charm and have other farkles more pressing.
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Old 04-30-2013, 02:10 AM   #16
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uhhh...Kuri, don't look now but there's a lotta washers just kinda hanging out under your bike...you sure they don't go to something important?
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Thanks KZ, can always count on you to notice details others don't. Actually, they are from the new tool tube mounting brackets that I was making. As with most of my farkles some trial and error necessary to get it just right for me. Hurt that you had no comment for the heel and toe, only for the washers.
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Thanks KZ, can always count on you to notice details others don't. Actually, they are from the new tool tube mounting brackets that I was making. As with most of my farkles some trial and error necessary to get it just right for me. Hurt that you had no comment for the heel and toe, only for the washers.
Well, my first thought was "why so high?" on the heel side.
Second thought was the washers
Third is you need to degrease your shifter/peg area...
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Well, my first thought was "why so high?" on the heel side.
Second thought was the washers
Third is you need to degrease your shifter/peg area...
I explained the high position in first post. I'm sure everyone has different comfort peg levels but, for around town especially, I like resting my foot lightly on the shifter only so I can go up or down as the situation requires.
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