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Old 07-28-2009, 08:41 PM   #21
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EXCELLENT trip report!!!!

Can't wait!!!!

You didn't make it up to long point from LG1..? 48 kms of pure gravel I hear....the furthest north you can drive or ride.....maybe not the road the other street bikes want to ride on...???
Hope your buddy is OK after his spill...he's got a nice looking bike. Damn.

Not sure if we are doing the tour or not...? Those huge dams are something to see for sure. We did the Hover Dam last summer..amazing! If you have never done it...IMHO..well worth it.

Too bad about the hail damage...nothing a KLRista can't fix eh...lol
Must have hurt while riding though! if it knocked the paint off!!!

So the natives for a better term, don't like the french???
Were they just checking up on their boats etc or just curious?

Again ...excellent ride report
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Old 07-28-2009, 08:56 PM   #22
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Those tires on your KLR, they are the shinko 705's, yeah? What are your feelings about them after the trip?
Also, the gloves on the fireplace in your last post, those are tecnik? thoughts?
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Robert the 705s were great, in 3000 miles i prob wore through 1/3 of my tread. I was able to hang with the sport bike guys in teh twisties and able to blast down the gravel at 80 MPH.

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EXCELLENT trip report!!!!

Can't wait!!!!

You didn't make it up to long point from LG1..? 48 kms of pure gravel I hear....the furthest north you can drive or ride.....maybe not the road the other street bikes want to ride on...???
Hope your buddy is OK after his spill...he's got a nice looking bike. Damn.

Not sure if we are doing the tour or not...? Those huge dams are something to see for sure. We did the Hover Dam last summer..amazing! If you have never done it...IMHO..well worth it.

Too bad about the hail damage...nothing a KLRista can't fix eh...lol
Must have hurt while riding though! if it knocked the paint off!!!

So the natives for a better term, don't like the french???
Were they just checking up on their boats etc or just curious?

Again ...excellent ride report
THANKS, Dom and I worked on it together for the most part.


The dam tour was great, even if in french, but it takes up 4 hours of your day, and if you have to keep moving, not the best idea. we had planned the tour into our trip.
I wish we had more time to camp on the bay, but we did not.

The Cree really just came out to say Hi I guess.
The white trailblazer is one i have heard of coming out to say hi.

they don't like the dams, but yet it is their source of sizable income.

they are very friendly, I would not worry a bit about them.

The hail didn't feel so good.
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Old 07-28-2009, 09:01 PM   #23
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Great job guys! I have a few pics from Day 1, which I will send you to edit into the report.

A few observations off the top of my head....

As we've mentioned numerous times, route 129 in Ontario is simply a blast. It's easy to reach (about an hour east of Sault Saint Marie off route 17), it's scenic, and it's a great road. The first 60 km heading north are filled with slow sweepers, and the next 30km are much twistier (and a bit bumpy in places - I achieved take-off at one point). After that section, you arrive at the cabin where we stayed at the end of Days 1 and 6, which I would HIGHLY recommend. After route 129, route 101 to Timmons and on to Quebec is pretty good too. The cop we met was certainly friendly and the guy who works at the gas bar at the junction of 101 and 129 (just before Chapleaux) was funny.

The James Bay Road is in pretty good shape overall, although the first 200km are quite bumpy (lots of frost heaves and logging activity). The last 30 km before the mid-point gas stop and the subsequent section north to Radisson are much smoother and more fun IMO. The road from the James Bay Road to Chisasibi is in excellent shape, except the last segment to the Bay (read below), which was crap in the rain.

As for my low-speed highside into the boreal bog, it was a total noob job on my part. It happened at the end of the day, in the rain, and on what was the busiest and by far the roughest section of road we encountered on the whole trip. Basically, the entire town of Chisasibi was on the road going back and forth between the town and a nearby island, where they celebrate their 'return to the island' festival (they were reclocated from their original island in 1980 due to concerns over erosion to the island from dam construction). We were only a few km away from the Bay at that point and I was determined to get there one way or another. I gradually drifted too far to the shoulder as cars made their way past, and then I made a classic mistake of failing to pay attention (I was screwing with the GPS and a paper map of the area). As I really started to drift, I made a second mistake of looking down directly at the front wheel and at the ditch, which caused me to skid even more on the loose gravel and head farther off to the right. I swear I was off the front brake, but numerous witnesses saw me grab the crap out of it. Once I realized I was likely going down (I thought on the left side), I decided to just dip down off the road and back up. It might have worked except that the terrain off the road consisted of wet peat moss and mud. The front wheel went a long way into the bog, stopped the bike immediately, and flipped me off. oops.

My first words after the fall were "Dom!! Take a picture for the Ride Report!!" I didn't realize that Jason also had pics of the actual off until later. As Dom mentioned, there was 0 damage. The only things to hit were the highway peg attached to my crashbar, the right mirror, and the right sidecase. The crashbars were fine (didn't even move the highway peg) and the mirror simply folded part way in. It was like landing on a sponge. There was some dirt clogging the radiator fan after that run, which is a known issue on the FZ6 since the fan is too close to the rad and stuff gets stuck in there frequently. The trip back the next day was pretty easy since I could ride closer to the crown of the road and there was no traffic.

I can't say enough good things about the Cree. They're super friendly (several were visibly pleased that we had chosen to camp right on the Bay). They're very proud of their land and heritage, and happy to discuss it with outsiders. The population up there is also expanding rapidly and they speak excellent english (and prefer it to french). To think that these folks have been there for 3000+ years and were already at the Bay in the early 1600s when Europeans showed up is pretty cool. The relationship between the only two "towns" up there (Radisson and Chisasibi) is pretty weird though, with Radisson serving the Hydro Quebec workers and visitors who come into town for booze, gas, or to see a mega dam, while Chisasibi serves the Cree and anyone who ventures to the Bay. There's not much love between the Quebec government and the Cree. All of the Cree we spoke with were pretty anti-dam, although the situation is complicated because it seems that much of the income for the local residents comes from compensation for the dams. It'll be sad to see the Rupert river lost.

I would recommend a tour of the dam at LaGrande-2 (now called Robert Bourassa). The scale of that thing is unbelieveable. The spillway is something like 52 stories high!

If you go north, you MUST go all the way to the Bay. The simple rule of thumb is *keep left at every junction once you're on the dirt*

Apparently there are plans on the table to extend the James Bay Road further north - all the way to Hudson Bay! Looks like we'll have to go back......

For now, we're planning a trip to another Bay. You'll have to guess which one.

More soon.
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Old 07-28-2009, 09:26 PM   #24
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This has been a wealth of knowledge for our trip...thanks again

Next bay.....fundy, prudue...I'm sure I will think of more as I try and sleep! Damn you..lol
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Old 07-28-2009, 10:11 PM   #25
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Awesome report, Jason...I can see where the scotch came in handy
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Old 07-29-2009, 08:33 AM   #26
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yeah, I am beer guy, but a glass of that at the end of the day brought sleep quickly
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Old 07-29-2009, 08:51 AM   #27
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Nice report, looks like you guys had a fun ride!
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Old 07-29-2009, 12:12 PM   #28
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it was a great ride.

I would ride anywhere with those guys
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Old 07-29-2009, 06:41 PM   #29
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I want to go next time looks like a great ride. How did the 685 treat you.
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Come on down to the Ontario forum and join in....we're going in 2-3 weeks! Aug 15-22...all are welcome to join us.
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Theres no way I could put in together in 2-3 weeks I have my wedding the end of Aug. Maybe next year.
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I want to go next time looks like a great ride. How did the 685 treat you.

685 was amazing, no real hand fatigue from vibrations, 50 MPG, and 98.3 MPH fully loaded.
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Three of us are leaving August 13th for James Bay. Doing the Trans-taiga as well. Maybe we'll see you up there!
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Look like me and my friend leaving to James Bay, Raddison, Trans Tiga from Montreal 15 Aug. See you on the way!
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Excellent!!

We will be on the James Bay Road probably sunday afternoon if all goes to plan. I would like to camp at the Eastmain river sunday night. What are your plans time wise?
Join us in the Ontario section under the James Bay ride thread...you will read when and where we hope to be and what our plans are....maybe we will either join each other or cross paths...
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Old 08-23-2009, 05:28 PM   #36
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We were there a few days before these guys and were on our way back when we ran into them. There were 4 or us, 3 on FJR 1300's and me on a 1200 GS Adventurer. We went to the bay and while the gravel was to be respected it was not a problem. The Cree indians up there are great. Everyone we met was very friendly and helpful.

The pictures do not even begin to do justice to the rapids. They are probably splashing 15' or more in some places. Most impressive. The guys I was with were cranking hard on the FJR's and really going through the fuel. My Adventurer could not keep up, a 100 mph or so and it was no longer fun so I backed down to about 90 and would just catch them when they would stop. The only real problem is fuel management as there was more traffic than you would think for the desolate nature of the area. There was probably a car every 3 - 5 minutes or so. Hmmm, come to think of it, that is the kind of traffic that you like. I came back through Maine and the east coast through New York City and it made you long for Canada again.

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Old 08-24-2009, 08:46 PM   #37
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well fuel management for you SPEED DEMONS>....;) but I did hit 98.3 MPH lol

it was great running into you guys!
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Man, I need another awesome trip like this!!!
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great report and great pics I Want to really do a trip like this
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