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Old 01-09-2018, 04:34 PM   #21
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What about thoughts on notoil vs uni? This is the first time I have heard Notoil uses non petroleum products. Not that I even know if what is on the uni that is currently on my bike has petroleum based oil or not. I'm guessing it does
I am finding several stories online (albeit a few years old) about Uni filters coming apart with NoToil products, at least the alcohol-based ones. NoToil did fairly recently come out with a non-alcohol based oil, I've not found any information on that and Unis. A couple of the OEM filters and the alcohol-based NoToil also came apart, which is why I started using their filters.

The NoToil filters for the KLR are a few dollars more money than some places show the Unis, not a dramatic difference.

I see on EagleMike's site that according to some tests done by KLRCary the UNI filter has the best flow rate. From that source, it can be counted on. I do not know the details of Cary's testing, whether it included a NoToil filter or not.

For me the NoToil works great and flows plenty, as I'm an old faht and not in a hurry these days... I personally like the non-toxic nature of the NoToil products, that is the main reason I tried it in the first place. I do use their base grease between the filter and the housing.

I've recently tried their chain lube and like it as well, but haven't used it long enough to have an opinion on things like chain life, etc.

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Old 01-09-2018, 04:47 PM   #22
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I used no-toil for our race bikes many years ago and it destroyed the glue on three air filters.....this was several years ago so I don't know if their new stuff is better; don't really care as the petroleum based cleaners and filter oil works well and I've been using it for years so I plan on continuing with it as long as it's available.

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I have never used anything but engine oil on my filters and clean them with gasoline.

The filter in one of my gen2 KLRs did split a couple of inches of seam while I was ridding to Copper Canyon in Mexico. I glued it with rubber cement from an office supply store in the little town where it happened and continued on with the trip. Tens of thousands of miles latter it is still working with no more splits.
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Air filter is gone.
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I was looking at my stock filter last night while I was in the middle of swapping to EM's klx needle kit. Still in great shape aside from the dirt/stains that I can't seem to get rid of. Seems like a shame to trash something that I literally have taken out of the bike once. Granted it was filthy after approximately 2000 miles. And it's just a foam filter so no use crying over spilled milk...

Now that I'm on lunch I'm going to be ordering another filter (stock, uni or no toil, we'll see) and cleaner. Did see Bike Bandit has preoiled filters already in a bag. Going to investigate more...
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....... Still in great shape aside from the dirt/stains that I can't seem to get rid of. Seems like a shame to trash something that I literally have taken out of the bike once.........
Why trash it? Clean it and reuse it.
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Stains don't filter, nor do the inhibit air flow.
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Old 01-12-2018, 09:38 PM   #28
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Man, I'm glad you guys can set me straight. I was thinking the stains were essentially dirt that I couldn't get rid of, would restrict air flow, possibly come loose and create nastiness with my cylinder walls which we know have an uneasy relationship with the rings in the engines. Generally speaking. I love this forum...
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