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Old 07-16-2017, 06:53 PM   #1
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Just returned from the 2 day event up in Flagstaff. One of the lowest turn outs in years...don't know why. Organizers put it just under 125 entrants. Might have been the mandatory AMA membership requirement this year.

This year I pestered another KLR owner to attend. He finally agreed and I promised him it would be fun and the pace to his choosing. He's got good skills so we rode the B routes both days. He's often here in .net but doesn't post much. Maybe he'll post up a couple pix and maybe a short video of the first single track saturday morning. If I recall he said he had come around the corner and saw what was ahead and mentally gave up figuring he wasnt going to make it, crash and tumble the 30-40ft down into the ravine. "Somehow" he managed to not only keep it up right but cleared the section without stalling. He was quite happy with that!

To back up some...just as we were heading out two other riders approached us and asked if they could tag along. One was on a DR650 and the other on 1150GS. 1150GS on a B route is generally not advisable. I'd seen him at other events and never needed rescue so I figured it was his call. We agreed if our 'pace' did not meet each other we'd split up and ride our own ride. The harder section of single track (described above) he asked for a go around route but otherwise he managed to get that big GS thru the B course. Quite impressive. I know there were a few sections he wasn't having fun but he kept plugging along. Saturdays B course was nearly 8hrs in total. Granted, we took a number of breaks and the pace was moderate but still a good day overall.

Sunday was a shorter ride but rain the previous evening had the course pretty wet. More rain was in the forecast. We headed out and sure enough we had a number of miles in the wet with just enough clay in the soil to make even my Shinko Big Block tires not nearly 'knobby' enough. We were all sliding all over the place. Soon enough the course dried out and conditions were epic. We went out to a new Sedona overlook for me then visited an abandoned cabin. By then thunder could be heard and it was decided to get out of dodge. I knew a short cut back to 89 but literally 1 mile from it the road was closed. No way to go around and no roads or trails to make our way to 89. We had to back track all the way around. Got a little wet but we stayed on main roads which were just fine with the rain.

Howlin at the Moon is coming up Oct 21st/22nd in Payson. Organizers said there will be some changes for ADV riders for this event if anyone is interested. They are trying to attract the less skilled ADV type riders. Go to their website for details. Then there is the Rubber Chicken DS event the following weekend in NM. I'll be making that event as well.
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Old 07-16-2017, 10:12 PM   #2
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Just returned from the 2 day event up in Flagstaff. One of the lowest turn outs in years...don't know why. Organizers put it just under 125 entrants. Might have been the mandatory AMA membership requirement this year.

This year I pestered another KLR owner to attend. He finally agreed and I promised him it would be fun and the pace to his choosing. He's got good skills so we rode the B routes both days. He's often here in .net but doesn't post much. Maybe he'll post up a couple pix and maybe a short video of the first single track saturday morning. If I recall he said he had come around the corner and saw what was ahead and mentally gave up figuring he wasnt going to make it, crash and tumble the 30-40ft down into the ravine. "Somehow" he managed to not only keep it up right but cleared the section without stalling. He was quite happy with that!

To back up some...just as we were heading out two other riders approached us and asked if they could tag along. One was on a DR650 and the other on 1150GS. 1150GS on a B route is generally not advisable. I'd seen him at other events and never needed rescue so I figured it was his call. We agreed if our 'pace' did not meet each other we'd split up and ride our own ride. The harder section of single track (described above) he asked for a go around route but otherwise he managed to get that big GS thru the B course. Quite impressive. I know there were a few sections he wasn't having fun but he kept plugging along. Saturdays B course was nearly 8hrs in total. Granted, we took a number of breaks and the pace was moderate but still a good day overall.

Sunday was a shorter ride but rain the previous evening had the course pretty wet. More rain was in the forecast. We headed out and sure enough we had a number of miles in the wet with just enough clay in the soil to make even my Shinko Big Block tires not nearly 'knobby' enough. We were all sliding all over the place. Soon enough the course dried out and conditions were epic. We went out to a new Sedona overlook for me then visited an abandoned cabin. By then thunder could be heard and it was decided to get out of dodge. I knew a short cut back to 89 but literally 1 mile from it the road was closed. No way to go around and no roads or trails to make our way to 89. We had to back track all the way around. Got a little wet but we stayed on main roads which were just fine with the rain.

Howlin at the Moon is coming up Oct 21st/22nd in Payson. Organizers said there will be some changes for ADV riders for this event if anyone is interested. They are trying to attract the less skilled ADV type riders. Go to their website for details. Then there is the Rubber Chicken DS event the following weekend in NM. I'll be making that event as well.
Did you say less skilled ADV type riders?!? WHEN??? WHERE??? Oh, Oct 21-22 in Payson. Got it!!
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Old 07-16-2017, 10:39 PM   #3
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Sorry couldn't make it this year chuck. Turns out my heart procedure came out perfect. No clogs no stent needed. Looking forward to Howlin at the moon this year.
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Old 07-16-2017, 10:51 PM   #4
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That's great news James! On your heart that is...
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Old 07-16-2017, 11:00 PM   #5
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Did you say less skilled ADV type riders?!? WHEN??? WHERE??? Oh, Oct 21-22 in Payson. Got it!!
Az clubs are particularly active in off-road and the last 10yrs with DS has been a push. About 3yrs ago they put an effort to tone down the rides some for the ADV groups and a bit for both A and B riders too. There's been some increased participation but much more is needed. Fact is Az is very dirt bike oriented (at least at the club levels) and there's a lot of pressure inside the clubs to make the rides more dirt/skill level. Been good feedback from the B riders but not from the ADV crowd. Payson event they are going try something different with the ADV group.
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