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Old 11-07-2013, 02:27 PM   #1
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Anyone out there have the 719 kit installed yet? Looking for comments and thoughts as I am toying with the idea but can't seem to find any info online...
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Old 12-17-2013, 02:04 PM   #2
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Anyone out there have the 719 kit installed yet? Looking for comments and thoughts as I am toying with the idea but can't seem to find any info online...
I have everything ready for the 719........I was doing a complete tear down (including engine, body, etc) of my '95 (got newer model cylinder) over the summer, but decided to not rush everything, trying to get ready for our Fall rides. I bought a street legal KLX650R to enjoy through the fall and finish working on the KLR during the winter. I will let you know how things go.
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Curious minds still want to know
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Old 03-13-2014, 01:39 PM   #4
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The 719 kit is installed (along with other goodies). I am hoping to have the bike running in the next 2 weeks! Will post up after the break-in period!
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Old 04-19-2014, 11:23 AM   #5
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The 719 kit is installed (along with other goodies). I am hoping to have the bike running in the next 2 weeks! Will post up after the break-in period!
That was a month ago, any updates?
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Old 04-19-2014, 06:37 PM   #6
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I'm going to be installing one when Eagle Mike gets back from where ever he is. I hope all is well...
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Old 04-19-2014, 08:37 PM   #7
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I'm going to be installing one when Eagle Mike gets back from where ever he is. I hope all is well...
On your own bike? I'll be interested to see the build thread--what are you going to do to the head?
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Old 04-19-2014, 09:01 PM   #8
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No. I'm doing it for a fellow NOVA KLR owner.

It's up to him if I do a build thread. I'll run it by him.

Nothing special to the head. Just making sure everything is in spec, lapping the valves and replacing the seals. (hopefully)

Already ran into problems. I was just removing the old doohickey and I found that someone already tried once before and failed. The puller threads are completely stripped clean on the flywheel.

I have a trick up my sleeve for that dilemma...
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I'm taking my bike in on Monday to start the install of a 719, port and polish, and other things on a 2008. I'll report back as soon as have anything to report.
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Old 10-12-2014, 11:43 AM   #10
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I've had my 719 kit in for a month. Pretty much done with the breakin, but still need to get more miles on it to realize full benefits.

It runs GOOD!
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any more details? ...seems everyone with the 719 wants to keep the outcome a secret!

Winter is here, talk me into it... differences, pro's, cons of this vs 685, 705, buying a bigger bike...

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Old 12-22-2014, 08:30 PM   #12
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any more details? ...seems everyone with the 719 wants to keep the outcome a secret!

Winter is here, talk me into it... differences, pro's, cons of this vs 685, 705, buying a bigger bike...

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I did the 719, it's great! Haven't dyno'd, but my guess would be that it's a 10 or 12 hp bump. My impression is that it's not a smooth as the 685 was, but still pretty good. Out on the Interstate, it will cruise at 85 mph, and has power to accelerate fairly quickly to 95 or so. Torque is better. And at those speeds, oil usage is non detectable.

What you would do is send EM a cylinder and a sleeve (available from Schnitz Racing, last I checked.) EM will remove the stock sleeve, clearance the space between the cylinder and the new sleeve (improves cooling,) install the new sleeve with new o'rings, have it bored to 719 and deck the top of the assembly. For the money you would spend on the kit, you will get a piston and wrist pin, pin clips, rings, 2 base gaskets, a cam tensioner gasket, and a properly sized head gasket. The base gaskets are .010 & .020 inches, the thinner one will increase c.r. to 10:1. Both base gaskets are steel instead of paper.

Costs (approx.) $150 for the sleeve, $325 for the piston kit, about $100 for machine shop & assembly work, $25 for shipping back to you. You should get a tube of Loctite 515 which will be another $15. When I did mine, I did a valve adjustment (no cost,) and a Thermobob 2 from Wattman $125. I also did the EM KLX jet kit. Rejetting is not really necessary, tho.

If you have any questions, don't PM. Post them up here so anyone interested can share.
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So Brian, you are suggesting that with a 719 and head work a guy could run OEM carb settings?

One thing I've really appreciated with the KLR is it runs well at 1500 ft and at 8000 ft. (Well, 'runs well'...lol)

I didn't find that to be the case with the KLX needle I had in my 2009. It was puking it's guts out at 5,000 ft. Maybe it was jetted too rich to start with; I don't remember what I had it set at...
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Old 12-26-2014, 02:03 PM   #14
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So Brian, you are suggesting that with a 719 and head work a guy could run OEM carb settings?

One thing I've really appreciated with the KLR is it runs well at 1500 ft and at 8000 ft. (Well, 'runs well'...lol)

I didn't find that to be the case with the KLX needle I had in my 2009. It was puking it's guts out at 5,000 ft. Maybe it was jetted too rich to start with; I don't remember what I had it set at...
I had a Transalp with Dyinojet kits. Fine up to 5000 ft, but up to about 6500, and it would start to run like total crap. Went back to stock needles and jets and it was all better. Kinda made me biased against dyinojet products!

Yes, my suspicion. & hope. & suggestion. The CVK 40 is pretty flexible. If your carb was puking above 5K, I'd guess that it was jetted too rich. Before I did the klx, I was running .22 mod, stock needle, 2 washers, and a 145 main with no problems even up on top of Mt. Lemmon (8000+ ft.)

EM's kit give some choices, but short of borrowing Chuck B's A/F meter setup, it's all guesswork. With the A/F meter, it's still kinda confusing--but if one can take the time and figure it out it gives pretty good results.
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Interesting. Maybe I'll start the Bored-Out-Cylinder-With-OEM-Carb Club.
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I am very sorry for not getting back to this thread. (Could blame it on age.....but I am just 45...). While I was doing a complete tear down of the bike so I could re-paint my '95, I had put in the 719 ('08 cylinder), head work, Hot cams, stainless valves (stock size), dynojet carb kit, and Heavy Duty springs for clutch. The guy that did my installation has done several 685s and has had a lot of luck running engine ice and no thermostat.....so I tried it and it seems to run well that way. My airbox was a virgin, with absolutely nothing done to it.....not even the snorkel taken out. So, the snorkel is out and I drilled several 1" diameter holes in the top and sides of the box. I use the UNI 1" insert filters.
Good Times......it's good to hear of your bike's conversion..........and I agree with you on your thoughts. My friends 685 is smoother, but even he said that the torque is much more noticeable with the 719. I run 16/43 sprockets, and it is still so strong!
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Hello comrades: on this subject I can only contribute to say that I live in Buenos Aires and I had buy recently to Mike the 719 piston and the special sleeve. It will take a little to arrival but I have no urgency. It is necessary and important for my to clarify that this decision is not related to any mechanical emergency. Simply I will do it to give me a taste, and also assuming that I will have in addition a gain of some extra performance with the upgrade.
For this project I have acquired an additional Gen2 cylinder (and a good head) on which I will make the new installation preserving my original cylinder just in case back to the 651. I must say that a good partner of this Forum, by private line, has given me details of his experience with the 719 and has encouraged to take the step forward.
Finally as soon as I complete my installation and have earned some thousands of kilometres I will commit my conclusions.
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im getting to pull the trigger on the kit also. just seeing how people like it.

plus im still looking for someone to help me thru the install locally in SoCal.
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Has anyone done the 685 kit or bigger and moved the exhaust cam 1 tooth?
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Has anyone done the 685 kit or bigger and moved the exhaust cam 1 tooth?
I'd definitely do it on a gen2. After market piston kits are unrelated to the MC Mod.
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